So they captured Saddam and say it is closure. This is good news, but is it closure? What closure? I thought this whole issue was about weapons of mass destruction. Where is the closure on that? Were they hiding in a hole in the ground as well?
Oh wait, I forgot. Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present, controls the past.
Doublethink time.
You cross posting mother fucker!
It is my own content. I felt it was worthy for double viewing. ;)
it's closure because saddam is finally out of power for good, the #1 guy we needed to capture. whether there are or there aren't WMDs, there is no longer a regime to use them. That's closure. Closure is not "make the liberals feel happy and get Bush out of office."
Oh, and it looks like Bush will be re-elected now. Which is ok by me, he's the least of the evils of the losers who are running. He's a decent president, but I'd never call him great.
Yes, it is closure on Saddam, but not on the issue of why they went to war. So can they just claim any country has WMD and go in and get rid of the regime just becuase there might or might not be WMD that they might or might not use. You could go into tons of countries with that logic.
You have to have reasons for things. When they started the reason was that they had proof that there were WMD. And now they don't even mention the WMD. You say that it doesn't even matter if they had them or didn't, but they went to war on the basis that they did have them. They did not express any uncertainty, and now they have totally changed the reasons for war after the fact.
I'm not talking about if it was just to remove him from power, or about Bush getting re-elected, I'm talking about lying and deceiving the public with scare tactics so as to get their support. WMD was there number one cause for war. And now, when they can't find any they wont even mention it. That is deceiving the public in a major way and is not right.
And that's why I'm referencing 1984. You should reall read that book if you haven't. This *is* Doublethink. They say one thing but mean another and the public believes it. The public holds two contradictory opinions - Saddam had WMD and could use them on the US thus it was the major cause for war and they have not found WMD and it was not a cause for war.
Who controls the past, controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.
Think about that for a second. It is from 1984. It says that those who control what was said in the past can control the future. And those who control the present can manipulate the past. This is exactly what they are doing. Because they control the message that gets out now in the present they are in a sense erasing the WMD cause and replacing it with other causes that fits the situation. And by doing so they help themselves in the future by getting the public to subscribe to this doublethink.
I'm not talking about removing Saddam not being a good thing. Rather, I am simply exposing the lies and deceits put forth that contradict past claims.
Right on Jeff. I'll take it a step further: I WANT BUSH OUT OF OFFICE!
To claim in any way that this man is a decent president is a horrible lie. He has done more harm for our nation than any single president before him, and it shows no signs of stopping. Despite the fact that he wasn't even elected in the first place, he needs to be removed from office in the upcoming election, and this will make it more difficult to achieve, precisely because of what Jeff is saying here: people are forgetting the lies.
More importantly, the media isn't even talking about the deceit of the Bush Administration, and they never have. The only people aware of the fact that there hasn't been a single weapon of mass destruction, be it nuclear or chemical, found in Iraq are the people who actually listen to news sources other than the American Television media.
Now, instead of backing out of Iraq, Bush has proposed an 87 BILLION dollar plan for Iraq to Congress. The man caused the greatest loss of jobs in history, but now he wants to spend 87 BILLION dollars in a foreign country? Where's the sense in that?